In this second episode of our age of extinction takeover, Patrick Greenfield and Phoebe Weston explore the impact that conservation and national parks can have on Indigenous communities and the biodiversity surrounding them

If you haven’t already, go back and listen to Tuesday’s episode on the history of national parks and some of the challenges they face


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  • Read more about the struggle of the Ogiek people here
  • Daniel Kobei is an Indigenous land rights campaigner and executive director of the Ogiek Peoples’ Development Program
  • Kate Jennings works for the RSPB, which you can read more about here
  • Christy Brigham works at Sequoia and Kings Canyon national parks, which you can find out more about here
  • Let us know what you think of the episode, and any stories you’d like us to cover in the future. Leave a comment below or send us an email at: scienceweekly@theguardian.com
Ogiek tribes children stand near tree stamp in Mauche settlement scheme of Mau Forest Complex in the Rift Valley Kenya. Photograph: Thomas Bohlen/Reuters/Corbis
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